Detailed Predictions for: Lake Elsinore
Launch Altitude (f): 2650
LZ Altitude (f): 1350
Sounding

Station:

KNKX

Date/Time:

N/A

Temp/Wind data from:

NOAA Digital Forecast

Time
(Local)
High
Temp

Puddle
Temp

Wind
(mph)
Thermal
Ceiling

(ft)
Soaring
Ceiling

(ft)
Above
Launch

(ft)
Thermal
Type
Thermal
Index

(F)
12 Midnight Mon 75 75 NW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Mon 74 74 NW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Mon 72 72 W 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Mon 72 72 W 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Mon 71 71 W 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Mon 71 71 W 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Mon 71 71 W 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Mon 72 72 W 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Mon 77 77 W 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Mon 82 83 W 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Mon 83 86 W 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Mon 85 90 W 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Mon 86 92 W 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Mon 88 95 W 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Mon 89 95 WSW 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Mon 88 93 WSW 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Mon 88 91 WSW 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Mon 86 87 SW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Mon 84 84 SW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Mon 78 78 SW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Mon 74 74 WSW 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Mon 73 73 WSW 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Mon 72 72 WSW 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Mon 72 72 NNW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Tue 71 71 NNW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Tue 70 70 NNW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Tue 68 68 WNW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Tue 68 68 WNW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Tue 67 67 WNW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Tue 67 67 S 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Tue 67 67 S 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Tue 68 68 S 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Tue 73 73 SW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Tue 77 78 SW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Tue 79 82 SW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Tue 80 85 SW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Tue 81 87 SW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Tue 83 89 SW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Tue 84 90 SW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Tue 83 88 SW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Tue 83 86 SW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Tue 82 83 SW 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Tue 79 79 SW 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Tue 74 74 SW 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Tue 70 70 SW 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Tue 68 68 SW 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Tue 68 68 SW 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Tue 68 68 WSW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Wed 66 66 WSW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Wed 66 66 WSW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Wed 64 64 SW 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Wed 64 64 SW 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Wed 63 63 SW 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Wed 63 63 WSW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Wed 63 63 WSW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Wed 64 64 WSW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Wed 69 69 WSW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Wed 74 76 WSW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Wed 75 78 WSW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Wed 77 82 WSW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Wed 78 84 WSW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Wed 80 87 WSW 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Wed 81 87 WSW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Wed 80 85 WSW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Wed 80 83 WSW 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Wed 79 80 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Wed 77 77 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Wed 73 73 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Wed 70 70 S 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Wed 68 68 S 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Wed 68 68 S 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Wed 68 68 E 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Thu 67 67 E 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Thu 66 66 E 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Thu 65 65 SE 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Thu 65 65 SE 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Thu 64 64 SE 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Thu 64 64 SSE 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Thu 64 64 SSE 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Thu 65 65 SSE 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Thu 70 70 SSE 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Thu 74 76 SSE 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Thu 76 79 SSE 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Thu 77 82 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Thu 78 84 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Thu 80 86 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Thu 81 87 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Thu 80 84 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Thu 80 83 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Thu 79 80 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Thu 78 78 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Thu 74 74 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Thu 71 71 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Thu 70 70 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Thu 70 70 WSW 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Thu 69 69 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Fri 68 68 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Fri 68 68 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Fri 67 67 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Fri 66 66 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Fri 66 66 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Fri 66 66 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Fri 66 66 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Fri 67 67 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Fri 71 71 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Fri 75 77 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Fri 76 79 N 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Fri 77 82 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Fri 79 85 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Fri 80 86 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Fri 81 86 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Fri 80 84 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Fri 80 83 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Fri 79 80 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Fri 77 77 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Fri 73 73 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Fri 70 70 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Fri 69 69 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Fri 69 69 W 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Fri 69 69 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Sat 68 68 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Sat 67 67 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Sat 66 66 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Sat 65 65 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Sat 65 65 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Sat 65 65 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Sat 65 65 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Sat 66 66 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Sat 71 71 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Sat 76 78 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Sat 77 80 NW 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Sat 79 84 W 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Sat 80 86 W 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Sat 82 88 W 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Sat 83 89 W 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Sat 82 87 W 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Sat 82 85 W 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

DISCLAIMER: These estimates are intended to assist in daily site selection only.  No warranty is made concerning the accuracy of these estimates.  These estimates cannot be used to determine if conditions are safe for flying.  Conditions should be evaluated at the launch site by experienced pilots before launching.

Sounding: This is the site at which the weather balloon was released.  If the flying site predicted is far from the sounding site, the estimate is not valid.  Also, the sounding is done at 12Z (4AM PST).  If a front comes through, the sounding is no longer valid. The sounding becomes less valid later in the day.

Thermal Ceiling: the lower of the height at which the thermal stops rising and the cloud level.  We can't fly into the clouds, so it doesn't matter how much higher the thermal goes.  Remember that we can't get to the top of the thermal because of our sink rate.  Our upper limit will be lower than the reported ceiling.

Soaring Ceiling: We will stop going up when the thermal is rising just fast enough to offset our sink.  It is estimated that this happens when the temperature difference between the thermal and the surrounding air is about 2 degrees F. This number is an estimate of the maximum altitude we might reach if we start at launch height, and should be more reflective of our chances of soaring than the thermal top. Please let me know how this compares with actually flying, and I will adjust it as necessary.

Above Launch: The difference between how high we might get and how high we start. This estimate does not account for ridge lift.

High Temp: This estimate is taken from the Weather Channel website.  Puddle temperatures can exceed this temperature. 

Puddle Temp: This estimate is based on the High Temp and the Weather Channel estimate of cloudiness, and the angle of the sun.  When the sun is directly overhead on a sunny day, the puddle temp is esimated to be 25 degrees warmer than the high ambient temperature. This estimate now includes a rigorous calculation of the Sun Angle, and accounts for the seasonal differences in zenith and daylight hours.

Wind: This estimate is taken from the Weather Channel website.

Thermal Type: Blue (no cloud formation) or White (Cloud formation)

Thermal Index: This is the maximum difference in temperature between the rising packet of air (the thermal) and the surrounding air.  The difference in temperature is responsible for the buoyancy of the thermal, and larger temperature differences mean faster rising thermals.  A value of about 10 F or greater often means that the conditions are soarable.  Values above 20 could indicate rowdy thermals.

Validity of estimate: Many factors (including strong wind, fronts, cloud shadows, incorrectly predicted temperatures, etc) can affect the validity of the estimates. 

Author: Tad Hurst